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Lisa Hochstein reacted to the news of Lenny Hochstein‘s new girlfriend, 25-year-old Alena Kovalenko, and offered an update on where she stands with his mom, Marina Hochstein, on Wednesday’s episode of Watch What Happens Live.

While also shading Lenny’s ex-fiancée, Katharina Nahlik, 29, responding to claims of being a narcissist and victim, and defending her decision to continue to follow Marcus Jordan, 34, after his split from Larsa Pippen, 50, the 42-year-old Real Housewives of Miami star revealed why she booted Larsa from Jody Glidden‘s party and confirmed she hadn’t yet met Alena.

“I don’t know her, [but] anything’s better than the last,” Lisa explained on the July 16 episode of WWHL.

Following Lenny’s breakup with Katharina, Lisa reconciled with Marina, and Marina ultimately attended the RHOM season seven premiere party with her and her daughter.

“We recently had my son and my daughter’s birthday at the house that I used to live in, and she came in, and it was really nice. We saw each other. We immediately hugged, and she said, ‘Sorry,’ I said, ‘Sorry,’ and she came to the premiere,” Lisa shared. “It was really nice. She came with Elle, and I’m really happy because she was like a second mom to me.”

Looking back at the claims of narcissism she’s faced on the show, Lisa wondered, “Who are they to diagnose somebody with narcissism?”

“We all have narcissistic traits, but full-on, full-blown narcissist? I don’t think so,” she stated.

Then, of being accused of playing the victim, Lisa admitted she wasn’t surprised by the allegation. 

“I’ve been going through it for the last three years, so I kind of am the victim of somebody,” she reasoned.

Lisa also copped to having a problem with being late.

“I am working on it,” she insisted. “Now that I have SplitWell, I have to manage so many people, so I’m definitely getting better.”

Moving on to her ongoing drama with Larsa, Lisa said that when it came to their Instagram dispute, there was a “whole backstory to that that happened even before filming.”

“And I don’t like to be ordered. Nobody likes to be ordered around,” she added.

Also on the live broadcast, after admitting that she was coming from a “very emotional” and broken-down place when she sent a photo of her dad to Larsa amid their feud, Lisa said it was “nice” to see the two of them come together at the end of the episode and explained why she kicked her castmate out of Jody’s party.

“It was his birthday, and she said he was cheap, which he’s not cheap. She called me a b*tch, she said I should suck his thing. She said a lot of crazy things, and I’m like, ‘You know what? Get out,’” she recalled.

Later, while appearing on the WWHL: After Show, Lisa was asked which of her castmates plays the victim the most.

“There’s so many of them. It’s hard to choose, but I’m gonna say Larsa,” she replied.

The Real Housewives of Miami season seven airs Wednesdays at 9/8c on Bravo.