U.S. President Donald Trump and his wife, Melania Trump, have wrapped up their second state visit to the U.K. The two received the royal treatment throughout their trip. On their final day in Windsor, the Princess of Wales (formerly known as Kate Middleton) and the first lady attended an engagement together at Frogmore Gardens. But an earlier exchange between the women had people talking.

When the president and Melania touched down at Windsor Castle on Sept. 17, Prince William and Kate welcomed them. After exchanging pleasantries, the Waleses accompanied the Trumps to their hosts, King Charles and Queen Camilla.

Following their greetings, Kate and Melania began conversing before the queen stopped the princess and told her she needed to leave.

Now, a lip-reading specialist is lifting the lid on what that conversation entailed and why Camilla was so eager to get rid of Kate.

Lip-reading pro decodes Kate and Melania’s conversation as the Queen ushers the princess away

Nicola Hickling is a lip-reading expert who has spearheaded the development of innovative technologies and services that empower individuals with hearing impairments. She has also appeared in the likes of the Daily Mail, Page Six, and Newsweek. She revealed what the Princess of Wales said to Mrs. Trump when she joined her and Queen Camilla mid-conversation.

Speaking on behalf of Betfair Casino, the lip reader told Showbiz Cheat Sheet that Kate said to Melania, “Your Macintosh is the same one I have. I wear it each time I fly.”

According to Hickling, the first lady then responded with equal enthusiasm, saying, “I know, it’s exceptional and such a comfort. Sometimes I wear it to the house … Sometimes when I come, I don’t want to go back.” 

Melania’s words hinted at a fond attachment, likely alluding to the Trumps’ Scottish home.

Hickling also revealed to covers.com that Queen Camilla broke up their conversation. She informed Kate that she had to leave as it was time to get to her carriage, instructing the princess to “Go now, you need to go to your carriage.”

What the princess and the first lady’s gestures during the state dinner proved

Kate and Melania were present for the state dinner that same evening. Now, an expert is explaining the meaning of some of their gestures and movements as King Charles and Donald Trump gave speeches.

Darren Stanton is a body language and behavioral expert with a degree in psychology. He previously worked as a police officer and used his expertise to uncover the truth when interviewing hundreds of suspects. He later moved into media and TV as a consultant and has been dubbed the “Human Lie Detector.”

Speaking on behalf of Betfair Casino, Stanton shared with Showbiz Cheat Sheet that “Kate and Melania appeared very regal, and they embraced everything that was said. When people nod unconsciously, it means it’s a genuine neutral emotion. We won’t see anything in their faces or nonverbal gestures, but it tells us that they were happy to be in that environment. 

“[Donald] Trump and Kate, we see their body language totally reciprocated. Kate is tilting her head, which means she is genuinely interested in what he’s saying. It shows deep, active listening, which a lot of people don’t do. Trump is reciprocating this gesture back, so he’s authentic in his comments about being honored to be one of the very few presidents who’ve been invited for a second state visit.”

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