So much for Candace Owens promising to quit discussing Charlie Kirk conspiracies if his widow asked her to. In the wake of Erika Kirk’s request to do just that, the podcaster doubled down — and managed to bring Meghan Markle into it too. If ever there was a sign of the times, this would be it. On the off chance you haven’t been following Owens’ beef with Erika, we’ll start with the latter’s Fox News interview. Asked to address the questions surrounding where Charlie’s body was buried, Erika became visibly angry, asking in part, “Can I have one thing? Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred? Where my husband is laid to rest?” Cue Owens’ response on her eponymous podcast. 

It’s important to highlight that the royal defector wasn’t the only celebrity in the crosshairs of the contentious podcaster when discussing Erika’s dilemma between private and public life. Bethenny Frankel also came up in the conversation. However, instead of targeting the “Real Housewives of New York City” star, the podcaster aligned with Frankel’s view that individuals cannot selectively decide what aspects of their lives remain private. This perspective also extends to Erika’s situation. Interestingly, Bethenny Frankel has previously criticized Meghan Markle for similar choices. Perhaps it’s time for someone to check in on the former “Suits” star.

It’s worth noting that the royal defector wasn’t the only celebrity that the controversial podcaster brought up while slating Erika’s private-versus-public debacle. She also mentioned Bethenny Frankel. Granted, Owens wasn’t criticizing the “Real Housewives of New York City” alum, but wholeheartedly backing Frankel’s stance on not being able to choose what was public and what wasn’t, arguing that the same applies to Erika’s situation. Notably, Bethenny Frankel has also called Meghan Markle out in the past for doing that. On second thoughts, maybe someone should check on the “Suits” alum. 

In response to criticisms, the forthright commentator clarified that she wasn’t seeking a confrontation with Erika, Charlie’s widow. “My issue isn’t with Erika […] the narrative now suggests that questioning her puts you at odds with her,” she explained. Instead, Owens insisted that her goal was to challenge misinformation, a mission she’s consistently pursued. Thus, it seems this saga won’t conclude anytime soon.

Once again, Owens responded on her podcast. “I would like to honor that,” she confirmed (via YouTube). However, “I can only honor that if Erika is more explicit in terms of what I have lied about. What did I lie about?” Owens went on to list all the things she’d questioned, accusing others of lying and reiterating that the former beauty queen should specifically detail what was inaccurate, promising to correct herself if anything was presented to her. Later on in the episode, Owens also called out what she saw as manipulation in the messaging that she and others asking questions meant they weren’t respecting what Erika had been through.

Despite the clap-backs, the outspoken commentator clarified that she wasn’t looking to feud with Charlie’s widow. “My beef is not with Erika […] that is what they are pushing now, that if you question it, you’re up against Erika,” she said. On the contrary, Owens asserted that she was doing what she had always done, which was pushing back on false information. As such, we’re not anticipating an end to this drama any time soon.