In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum welcomes back Susan Hendricks and Joe Giacalone to break down the second trial of Karen Read— and y’all, it’s a mess.

They explain how John O’Keefe deserved better, pointing to sloppy police work, mishandled evidence, and a justice system in disrepair. They examine courtroom testimony that doesn’t hold up, highlight signs of investigative bias, and consider how divided public opinion has become. With the second trial underway, they raise the hard questions: Can this case be fairly tried? And what does it reveal about the deeper issues within the criminal justice system?

Joseph L. Giacalone is a retired NYPD sergeant, criminal justice educator, and nationally recognized expert in policing and investigations. With more than 20 years of frontline experience, he now teaches criminal investigations and regularly appears in the media to discuss high-profile cases and law enforcement issues. He also authored two widely used textbooks in the field.

Connect with Joseph at his website, and on his podcast True Crime with the Sarge

Susan Hendricks is an investigative journalist and host of Headline Crime. Known for her thoughtful and fearless reporting, she brings national attention to overlooked cases and failures in the justice system.

Listeners can learn more about Susan on IG @susan_hendricks, on X @susanhendricks, and on Headline Crime

Follow Susan on Instagram @susan_hendricks, on X @susanhendricks, and on Headline Crime.

[Feature Photo:Karen Read/LinkedIn and John O’Keefe/police handout]