Khloe Kardashian has dealt with more than her share of drama tabloid scandals, breakups, public heartbreak but nothing, prepared her for a visit from the other side. In a special episode of her Khloe in Wonder Land podcast, an Ask Me Anything episode, Kardashian got real about her fears, ranging from whales to something even creepier, a “horrible” little girl ghost.

While answering a fan-submitted question about what scares her, the 41-year-old opened up about a deeply unsettling paranormal experience involving her daughter, True. It all started when they moved into a rental house, and True began mentioning a “little girl” who would visit her in her room. At first, the reality star chalked it up to imaginary friend territory until things got a little too real.

“This girl would go in her room, she would wake her up. True would tell me about her,” she explained. But the moment that really shook her came one night when she also heard the unmistakable sound of small footsteps in the hallway. “I was like, did True get out of the crib? Because it was a little kid’s footsteps,” she said. “But True was still sleeping.”

Kardashian continued detailing the moment she interacted with someone from the other side.

“I remember she brushed my hair,” she revealed, noting she also heard humming. After they moved out of the house, one of the nannies finally opened up. “She pulled me aside and said, ‘I saw the shadows that True speaks of and I didn’t want to admit it, but we need to get out of here; it’s horrible.’” The kicker? The nanny didn’t even believe in ghosts until that house.

For the Good American co-founder, who also previously dealt with a more peaceful spirit named “Jerry” in another home, this experience felt completely different.

“That girl did not feel good,” she admitted. “That little girl… she was horrible.”

Kardashian isn’t afraid to talk about the things we usually whisper about whether it’s the supernatural, motherhood, or her fears of dating as a mom. But one thing’s for sure, when she says something creeped her out, it’s worth taking seriously.

After all, if True saw her, and the nanny saw her, and Kardashain felt her, maybe that little girl wasn’t so imaginary after all.

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