In an interview on Wednesday with conservative commentator and podcast host Charlie Kirk, Gabbard discussed the recent release of documents, which she said confirms that former President Barack Obama and his national security team had direct involvement in the intelligence that led to the years-long nightmare of Russiagate during Trump’s first term in office.

🚨This is a critically important piece of tape from my interview just moments ago with DNI Tulsi Gabbard where she FIRES BACK at her critics. They claim her allegations contradict findings in the 2019 Mueller Report and the 2020 Senate Intelligence Committee report.

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— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 24, 2025

Kirk said critics have tried to claim her allegations contradict findings in the 2019 report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the 2020 Senate Intelligence Committee report. He noted that those on the right aren’t “contesting that Russia was trying to sow discord and chaos” in the 2016 election, something he said that’s well-received and accepted.

Or that the documents dispute that Russia colluded in the 2016 presidential election, but that Obama and [then CIA Director John] Brennan actually omitted information the Russians had on Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

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He said what’s in contention is that there’s no evidence that Russia was actually doing the opposite of helping Trump, and in fact was helping Clinton. He noted how Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) went so far as to claim that Trump had colluded “with the Russian government,” even though Obama and other Democrats knew that was false.

“This is where the critics of what we revealed are, this is where President Obama’s team and Sen. [Mark] Warner [(D-VA)] and other members of Congress are going, to that exact point,” Gabbard said. “They are saying, ‘Hey, look. Nothing to see here. Everybody knows and agrees Russia tried to interfere in the 2016 election.’ I don’t disagree with that statement.”

“Here’s the point of distinction,” she added, “that there’s no credible intelligence that points to Russia or [Russian President Vladimir] Putin meddling in the 2016 election in order to try to get Donald Trump elected, period. And one of the most significant pieces of evidence that was revealed in that report we released yesterday is the fact that Russia claimed to have very damaging information, high-level DNC emails, relating specifically to Hillary Clinton’s physical and mental health. And DNC leaders questioning whether or not, if elected, she would even be capable of carrying out the duties of the presidency.”

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“Russia had this. If they wanted to swing the election for Donald Trump they would have released it in September, October of 2016 at a pivotal time to swing momentum into Donald Trump’s direction,” Gabbard continued. “And damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign. They did not do that, deliberately….this cuts to the core of the problem with the January 2017, President Obama-ordered manufactured intelligence document.”

The DNI went on to explain that Obama and his team “willfully omitted” the intelligence about Clinton because it “didn’t support the false narrative they intentionally built,” which was the “intelligence community says with high confidence that Putin aspired to and helped get” Trump elected in 2016.

My RedState colleague Rusty Weiss reported on the newly declassified report, which Gabbard said shows the Obama administration’s direct involvement in the 2016 post-presidential election Russia hoax.

The report was an assessment of how the Obama administration manufactured a January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, which portrayed Russia as having influenced the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump.

That assessment was “false,” Gabbard writes, noting that the Obama administration “conspired to subvert the will of the American people,” and, working in conjunction with a willfully ignorant media, staged “a years-long coup against” Trump.

I admit this can be confusing at times, but hopefully, bringing you clips like this from Gabbard provides more clarity. This story continues to develop, and RedState will stay on top of it to bring you the latest updates and analysis.

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