Tucker Carlson left Joe Rogan speechless with this disturbing claim — a claim Tucker asserts as fact during an interview with Joe Rogan that has re-emerged since the Trump inauguration.

“Members of Congress are terrified of the intel agencies,” Tucker told Rogan.

“I’m not guessing at that. They’ve told me that. Including people on the intel committee. Including people who run the intel committee, the people whose job it is to oversee and keep in line these enormous secretive agencies whose budgets we can’t even know. They’re black budgets. They’re the parents. The agencies are the children. They’re afraid of the agencies.”

If there were any doubts surrounding the political power that our intelligence agencies have, they’ve been largely dispelled since Trump won his first presidential run in 2016. During the first Trump term the American people were largely unable to enjoy the many successes of the administration they voted for, due to an endless barrage of scandals – largely concocted by our three letter government agencies.

It was Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer who gleefully told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, “you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” Schumer said it with a smile.

The FBI, we learned, misled congress regarding the reliability of the Steele Dosier, in order to spy on the Trump campaign.  FBI agent, Peter Strzok, became a darling of the left after it was discovered that he conspired to frame the president.

It is no wonder that the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt on Trump, in 2024, was viewed by many as possibly connected to these agencies.

Tucker Carlson, who has not been afraid to say the quiet part outloud, was fired from Fox in 2023 for consistently calling attention to these abuses of power.

Allowing unelected intel agency operatives this much power, Tucker told Rogan, is un-American. “That’s not compatible with democracy. Democracy is a really simple system, even representative democracy like ours. The people rule. They do so through elections. They express their preference through voting. They send their people to the capital city to run the government on their behalf.”

With the Senate confirmation of President Trump’s CIA director pick, John Ratcliffe – and with hopeful FBI director Kash Patel in the wings – we can only hope to see much-needed reform.

If this glaring problem is not fixed, our elections will mean nothing, as our politicians will be subject to the whims and biases of unelected agents and operatives, Tucker argued.

“Whenever you have unelected people who are not accountable to anyone making the biggest decisions, you don’t have a democracy, you have something else. Another system. I would call it a tyranny, or whatever you want to call it. It’s not a democracy.”

They have been trying to destroy Jesus in our country for years. This is an op. Everything in govt is. Especially in Washington.
Tucker leaves Rogan SPEECHLESS pic.twitter.com/yLsaGjWhQs

— Burning Bunny (@Fedsurrection20) January 23, 2025