Leaked audio reveals Campbell's VP's remarks about soup's ingredients
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Campbell Soup is currently embroiled in controversy after a former staff member purportedly captured a vice president disparaging the company’s products and its consumer base in a covert recording.

Robert Garza, a Michigan resident, initiated legal action against Campbell’s last Thursday, simultaneously releasing an audio recording he claims features Martin Bally, the Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer. This recording was shared with Detroit’s Local 4 News, who then aired parts of it.

In the recording, a voice attributed to Bally is heard remarking, “We have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**’s in it.”

The voice also discusses “bioengineered meat,” expressing concerns by stating, “I don’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.” Although bioengineered foods are permitted for sale in the United States, there is a requirement for companies to appropriately label such items.

Campbell’s has acknowledged that they use genetically modified seeds for their canola, corn, soybean, and sugar beet crops. However, the company has not confirmed whether the meat in their soups is derived from lab-grown animal cells.

A Campbell Soup Company spokesperson told Daily Mail: ‘We are proud of the food we make, the people who make it and the high-quality ingredients we use. The comments on the recording are not only inaccurate—they are patently absurd. 

‘Keep in mind, the alleged comments are made by an IT person, who has nothing to do with how we make our food. If the recording is legitimate, the comments are unacceptable. They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company.’ 

‘Mr Bally is temporarily on leave while we conduct an investigation.’

Campbell’s is being sued by a former employee for ‘disgusting’ remarks he said were made by the company’s vice president

Robert Garza, from Michigan , filed a lawsuit against Campbell's on Thursday. The suit claims Garza went to his supervisor to raise concerns about the remarks, but was filed a few weeks later

Robert Garza, from Michigan , filed a lawsuit against Campbell’s on Thursday. The suit claims Garza went to his supervisor to raise concerns about the remarks, but was filed a few weeks later

Daily Mail has contacted Bally for comment. 

The recording has made waves online, catching the attention of Florida’s Attorney General James Uthmeier, who posted on X on Monday: ‘Florida law bans lab-grown meat. 

‘Our Consumer Protection division is launching an investigation and will demand answers from Campbell’s.’

Garza, who began working remotely for the company in September 2024, said he met Bally at a restaurant in or around November 2024, hoping to discuss his salary, according to the lawsuit seen by Daily Mail.

However, Garza claimed that Bally went into an hour-long rant, allegedly slamming everything from the company’s products to employees, customers and also made racist comments about Campbell’s Indian staff members, according to the lawsuit.

Bally has been employed at Campbell’s since January 2022.

The recording lasted longer than an hour and 15 minutes and included what Garza said was a ‘disgusting’ rant about his coworkers, Local News 4 reported.

‘F***ing Indians don’t know a f***ing thing,’ the person in the recording said. ‘Like they couldn’t think for their f***ing selves,’ the person who identified as Bally said in part.

The recording alleges statements from Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer Martin Bally, who has now been put on leave while Campbell's conducts an invetigation

The recording alleges statements from Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer Martin Bally, who has now been put on leave while Campbell’s conducts an invetigation

Garza told Local News 4 that he went to his supervisor in January 2025 to report what he claimed Bally said during the meeting.

The lawsuit states: ‘On or about January 30, 2025, Plaintiff was abruptly terminated from employment.

‘Upon information and belief, Defendant [the supervisor] and Bally were responsible for Plaintiff’s termination.’ 

As a result of the termination, the lawsuit claims Garza has suffered, and is expected to continue suffering, stress, humiliation, embarrassment, outrage, mental anguish, denial of social pleasures, fear, mortification, emotional harm, as well as economic and non-economic damages, attorney fees and costs and additional damages that may be uncovered during litigation. 

‘He reached out to his supervisor and told the supervisor what Martin was saying, and then out of nowhere, my client was fired,’ Runyan told Local News 4. 

‘He was really sticking up for other people. He went to his boss and said, ‘Martin is saying this about Indian coworkers we have, he’s saying this about people who buy our food — who keep our company open, and I don’t think that should be allowed.’ And the response to Robert sticking up for other people is that he gets fired, which is ridiculous.’

Runyan also told Local News that Garza ‘had never had any disciplinary action, they had never written him up for work performance.’

The lawsuit alleges that Garza was terminated on January 30, 2025, as retaliation for speaking out about Bally’s conduct, and accuses Campbell’s of fostering a racially toxic workplace. 

‘They have a motto: ‘We treat you like family here at Campbell’s — come work for us,’ Garza told Local News 4. ‘We treat our employees like family.’ That’s not the case.’ 

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