The lone juror who declined to acquit Lindsay Clancy has said he never wavered in his belief that she should be found guilty, despite fellow panel members urging him to support a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity in the deaths of her three children.
The juror, identified by NewsNation as Michael P. Desronvil, said he had no uncertainty about a guilty verdict, contradicting previous comments from jury foreperson Roni Carlson.
Desronvil claimed that he was repeatedly interrupted when he attempted to lay out alternative interpretations of the evidence during deliberations, saying his concerns were rooted in what had been presented at trial.
Still, he told NewsNation that the physical evidence, testimony from key witnesses and the prosecution’s case led him to conclude that Clancy understood her actions and had planned to kill her children: five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson and eight-month-old Callan.
Speaking separately with Ray Marcel of Fugitive TV, Desronvil said he remained convinced that Clancy could distinguish right from wrong at the time of the killings.
Marcel said the juror told him that the evidence he reviewed left him certain of Clancy’s guilt. According to Marcel, Desronvil believed she was not legally insane and was aware of what she was doing.
Although Marcel did not air their conversation, he said the holdout juror spoke with him by phone for more than an hour. Desronvil reportedly felt compelled to address the case after other jurors criticized him publicly following the trial.
Marcel said Desronvil believed some public accounts of his role on the jury were incomplete, misleading or false. That included claims that he had harbored reasonable doubt over Clancy’s guilt, an assertion the juror rejected.
Ray Marcel, the host of Fugitive TV, said he spoke with the Lindsay Clancy trial’s holdout juror, who maintained that he voted guilty because he was never persuaded that the mother met the legal standard for insanity.
The Lindsay Clancy case prompted fierce debate nationwide. Clancy admitted strangling her children — Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and eight-month-old Callan — while entering a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity.
Clancy’s trial sharply divided opinion after she admitted strangling her three children, but pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.
The jury ended in a controversial 11-1 deadlock. Podcast host Marcel said the holdout juror told him their 40-hours of deliberations were contentious from the outset.
Since the verdict, there has been a wild social media race to identify him publicly.
NBC Boston published details of domestic violence allegations against him, but did not reveal his identity. They stem from a dispute involving his ex-wife.
In his phone call with YouTube host Marcel, the juror explained his decision to convict was based on ‘preparation she [Clancy] did’ before killing her children, including sending her husband Patrick out for errands before attacking the kids.
The holdout juror also said he had been stunned by the vitriol he faced after he voted to convict Clancy, and felt the backlash from his fellow jurors was because he was a ‘black Republican,’ Marcel claimed.
Clancy used exercise bands to fatally strangle her children in 2023
Clancy’s murder trial ended in a mistrial earlier this month, but prosecutors have not yet indicated if they intend to re-try her or offer a plea deal
After NBC Boston that the holdout juror was accused of domestic violence, which he was arrested but never prosecuted for in 2021, questions swirled over how he was admitted to the case – as potential jurors are required to disclose if they have ever been arrested or charged with a crime in the past.
Marcel said the holdout juror insisted that he never lied to the court, and he ‘checked the box he was supposed to check’ on juror questionnaire forms, but was selected anyway.
He said the holdout juror told him the allegations stemmed from a turbulent ‘fraudulent marriage,’ and their relationship rapidly deteriorated when Desronvil allegedly discovered she was an illegal immigrant.
‘He didn’t know that, and he told me that’s pretty much when everything hit the fan,’ Marcel said on his YouTube show.
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He said the holdout juror told him that his former partner raised domestic violence allegations in retaliation after he filed for divorce.
In 2025, the holdout juror was also alleged to have attacked his nephew by shoving him to the ground and striking him in the face, according to reported restraining order documents obtained by NBC Boston.
The juror was also not prosecuted over that incident, the outlet reports, and Marcel said the juror told him that he did not want to get into those allegations beyond saying that ‘the truth will come out.’
Jury foreperson Roni Carlson previously told NBC10 that the holdout juror ‘admitted he had reasonable doubt,’ but Marcel reported this was disputed.
‘He felt that she was sane when she did it. And that’s exactly what he told me,’ Marcel recalled in an interview with NewsNation.
Desronvil reportedly insisted that despite the deliberations ending in deadlock, the jury was not unanimously against the holdout juror from the start and their conversations began with just eight jurors wanting to acquit Clancy.
‘They were doing their best to convince,’ Marcel said, adding that two of the jurors were undecided, and the holdout juror had at least one other person who also believed she was guilty.
Marcel said Desronvil told him the other juror was on his side ‘until the last moment,’ at which point she ‘caved and voted with the rest.’
‘He said he didn’t know if it was due to the pressure (from the other jurors), but he didn’t care,’ Marcel continued.
‘He said he knew that she was guilty because of the evidence that he saw. He felt he was not insane at the time and knew what she was doing.’
Clancy admitted to killing her children, but pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity as she claimed she was suffering postpartum psychosis and was overmedicated
The holdout juror attempted to convince others of Clancy’s guilt by using a water bottle and string to demonstrate how she strangled their ‘little necks’, Marcel revealed
Over 40 hours of deliberations, Marcel said Desronvil told him the conversations grew agitated, and at one point he used a water bottle and a piece of string to demonstrate the force Clancy would have used to strangle her children to death.
‘He tied a string around the water bottle, and did it to set and example and show people, “Imagine the water bottle as their little necks,”‘ he recalled.
Asked what convinced the holdout juror of Clancy’s guilt, Marcel told NewsNation that he was told that he felt ‘she was sane by the preparation she did’ before strangling her children.
Marcel told NewsNation the fact Clancy took her time’ strangling each child, some in separate rooms to the other also helped sway Desronvil’s decision.
‘The preparation showed that she was sane and knew what she was doing, pretty much knew right from wrong, before she did what she did,’ Marcel said.
Marcel explained he decided to share the juror’s perspective amid the huge response and vitriol directed at the holdout juror.
‘No matter if you agree with him or not, his name shouldn’t have been put out there like that,’ the Fugitive TV host said.
‘No juror should be put to the forefront like that, because it’s their civic duty to do that, and they should be protected. He never asked for any of this whatsoever.’