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Shannon Beador said she accused Katie Ginella of something “criminal,” and she’s still “shocked” by it. The Real Housewives of Orange County star also shared where she stands with Tamra Judge, and she explained why she commented that Eddie Judge has “small d**k energy.”

In the season 19 trailer, Shannon claimed Katie did something “illegal.” In the fight, Shannon stormed away as Katie mentioned that Shannon had left her grilled cheese. And in the season premiere, several castmates accused Katie of lying.

In an interview for Entertainment Tonight, Shannon addressed her feud with Katie.

“I may [have] use[d] the word criminal a few times,” said Shannon. “And then I took that back … [But] you know what? A boundary was crossed that literally blindsided me.”

“There’s no good explanation [for it],” she added. “Katie is known for her answers and explaining away everything. There’s no positive way to explain away what happened between she and I.”

Shannon claimed the drama involved her “directly.”

“It still shocks me,” Shannon added. “And it shocks me that somehow she could sit down when I have a plate of grilled cheese and think that we’re going to make it all better.” According to Shannon, she doesn’t see a place for Katie moving forward in the group.

The star also shared where she stands with Tamra.

“It was very important for me this season to not have that tension with Tamra, and you’ll see us laugh together a few times,” she said. “Once again, that doesn’t mean that the friendship is rebonded.”

“She’s my work friend,” explained Shannon, emphasizing the word ‘work.’ “We get together sometimes in a group. I mean, I don’t talk to her.”

Shannon then mentioned her own Watch What Happens Live interview, where she was asked which man on the show has ‘small d**k energy.’ Her answer was Tamra’s husband, Eddie.

“All the men have been nice to me except Eddie, so [my answer was] a no-brainer,” she stated. “I said, ‘Eddie’ … [Then Tamra] posts a bunch of eggplant emojis, apparently saying at least I get dick. And then, of course, true to Tamra, she deletes it a few hours later.”

As for Tamra’s mid-season post, suggesting she was quitting RHOC, Shannon recalled that she never believed her.

“I think [the post] affected everyone differently,” said Shannon. “But you know, Tamra’s Tamra. I didn’t like it.”